In this episode, John has a conversation with his longtime spiritual mentor to give us another behind the scenes look at how important discipleship and mentoring has been in his life. Paul Estes has been in ministry for over 50 years and spoken all over the world. The church he founded, Christ Church International was established in 1989 by Paul and his wife in Dothan, Al. John and Ashely have been discipled and mentored by “Bro E” for 25 years. The value of having long-term covenant relationships has been a key to their personal and professional growth. They believe life is more caught than taught and if you want to grow wisdom then walking with wise men is the best way. After renovating 76 houses in his life he has always enjoyed renovations and real estate through a spiritual lens. The value Bro E has added to the lives of those around him through TV, Radio, web videos, and in person mentoring is immeasurable and we honor him for his faithful investment into the next generation.